v2 Chapter 205： Trial **** for tat
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Other media reporters wanted to interview Mu Yang, but it was almost time for the court session, and Mu Yang refused:
"Everyone, there are still ten minutes before the trial. Please respect the judges and staff who are waiting for work. If you want to interview, when Xinghai Group wins this lawsuit, you will naturally have enough interviews."
The media reporters can also understand and stop asking questions. The scene just now has already made everyone addicted, and there are already topics to write about.
Moreover, Mu Yang was on fire at this time, so he had to be more cautious when asking him questions, otherwise he might run away in embarrassment like the **** female reporter just now.
Mu Yang and others came to the court venue. Since the case was a bit complicated, the judge only arranged for one trial.
They have prepared and backed up the materials used in court in advance, which mainly include identity proof materials and original evidence.
After entering the court, the staff will verify their identities, remind them of relevant precautions, and sit in the corresponding seats as required.
Mu Yang was sitting in the dock, next to him were Luo Xiang and Zheng Li, and the rest of them were sitting in the spectator stand.
The general process of opening a court is like this: verify the identity of the parties → court investigation (statement, evidence, cross-examination) → court debate → final statement → mediation → adjournment.
There are basically very few sentences pronounced in court. Generally, the results are released after a period of time after the court session.
Of course, unless one party admits defeat on the spot, the results can also be released on the spot.
At this time, the plaintiff had already sat down, but Mu Yang and others were slow, mainly because they were delayed by reporters.
In this trial, a total of three judges (one presiding judge, two judges), a clerk and judge's assistant, jurors, technical investigators, etc., the court also invited two experts in the laser industry as jurors , participate in the trial of the case.
This case is relatively serious, so there are three judges, and the presiding judge is sitting between the two judges.
The presiding judge is a judge in his fifties, and the other two judges are also in their forties. They attach great importance to this trial.
Moreover, this is a lawsuit that many media are concerned about, and it must be treated with caution. If it is not handled properly, it will also lead to international disputes.
When the time is up, a judge will probably read out the hearing, and then face the plaintiff:
"The plaintiff reads your complaint below."
The igp attorney picked up a piece of paper and read out directly: "On October 10, 2009, Mu Yang, the chairman of the plaintiff Xinghai Group, purchased five 1000w fiber lasers from igp Shencheng for the first time for the assembly of hand-held laser welding;
On November 10, 2009, the plaintiff Xinghai Group reached cooperation with igp Shencheng Company to purchase 500 sets of 1000w fiber lasers.
On December 20, 2009, the plaintiff Xinghai Group terminated the purchase of igp lasers.
On March 5, 2010, our sales staff found that the hand-held laser welding equipment sold by Xinghai Group, the built-in laser is not the laser of igp, but the laser produced by Xinghai Group.
We believe that Xinghai Group used the industry's reputation of igp's lasers to sell its own handheld laser welding equipment, and then stealthily established its own laser brand, making customers misunderstand that the lasers they bought were igp's lasers.
Moreover, Xinghai Group has not been authorized by igp's 1000w fiber laser technology, and directly imitated igp's laser, which has caused patent infringement.
At the same time, the defendant Xinghai Group, as a competitor in the same industry, not only did not take the initiative to avoid our well-known product structure, but plagiarized it in an all-round way, which caused market confusion, violated good faith, and seriously damaged our interests.
I request the court to judge that Xinghai Group immediately stops the infringement, destroys the infringing products and compensates for the loss of 618 million yuan. "
After listening to the complaint, the on-site observers could not help but take a breath of air. It was 618 million yuan. It was said from the plaintiff's mouth that if Xinghai Group really lost, it would really hurt.
If it was a normal company, it would be directly closed down.
Fortunately, the Xinghai Group is now large.
After the plaintiff finished reading, the judge asked the dock: "Defendant, what is your opinion?"
This question, Mu Yang, as the person who handled it, is the most suitable for him to answer.
Mu Yang smiled and said without hesitation: "I think it's a big opinion, it's true that I purchased lasers from igp, but I haven't signed an agreement about not allowing our company to develop lasers.
My own product, what brand of spare parts are used to assemble my product, this igp can't control it.
You are hegemonic. As long as you have used your products, you are not allowed to use other products. It has violated the "Monopoly Law". I think, Your Honor, this kind of punishment for this kind of company.
As for your claim that our Xinghai Group is imitating igp's lasers, I don't even bother to do such a thing. If there is, please provide evidence. If not, then you are slandering our Xinghai Group and compensate us for the loss of our reputation. I think it was raised before. The 100 million yuan reputation loss fee feels a bit low. "
As soon as he started his statement, Mu Yang counterattacked sharply.
He knew that this was the pre-imposing oppression, which caused the opponent to collapse psychologically or become dizzy, the language expression was incoherent, and eventually he made a mistake.
The igp attorney asked again: "I heard that the xh-w1000 laser on the market was invented by Mr. Mu Yang, then, Mr. Mu Yang, as a sophomore student, how many invention patents have you authorized? How could it be possible to invent the invention? The world's most advanced laser."
Mu Yang replied calmly: "Your logic doesn't hold, even if I don't have an invention patent before, it doesn't mean that I won't invent an advanced laser. Can't my first invention be a laser?
Judges try homicide cases, so he has killed people, so can't he try homicide cases?
I think it's better for you to clarify your thoughts and ask me again, so as not to embarrass yourself. "
Mu Yang's counter-logical inquiry made the three judges laugh, but they stopped quickly.
However, the on-site observers, including media reporters, laughed regardless of their image.
The originally solemn and solemn court turned into a laughing venue.
"quiet!"
The presiding judge patted the case board, "Please continue the trial!"
The attorney was stopped at once, a question that directly suppressed his momentum.
The lawyer representing igp is still unforgiving: "please the defendant directly answer my question, yes or no?"
Mu Yang also ignored his question: "Yes or no, it has nothing to do with me being able to invent lasers. Your logic doesn't hold, do I have to learn to drive a car, do I have to learn a motorcycle first, can't I skip this stage?"
"Defendant, please look directly at this question, yes or no?" The igp attorney continued to ask.
Because the attorney knows that Muyang has not yet authorized the invention patent, which is not enough in terms of time.
If Mu Yang answered truthfully no, then the attorney would have won the first stage and won the momentum.
With this kind of gameplay, sometimes the judges are too late to stop this kind of problem.
However, Mu Yang just smiled lightly and did not answer.
The judge who asked the question just now said: "Wait a minute, the plaintiff's attorney, there is indeed a problem with the logic of your question. Please provide evidence. In what way do you think Xinghai Group has imitated igp's lasers?"
This question is most suitable for Lu Yiming, the technical director of igp, to answer.
Lu Yiming signaled to his attorney and wanted him to calm down, but he lost his momentum at the beginning.
The documents were handed in before the trial, and Lu Yiming opened the documents. The plaintiff and the defendant, as well as the technical officer and jurors, could see the evidence at the same time.
Lu Yiming said: "The first point is that Xinghai Group has been engaged in the laser industry for a very short time. According to my investigation, their R&D team is only 30 people, and the R&D level is insufficient. It is impossible to develop the world's advanced level. Lasers, this is a big doubt.
Second point, as our attorney said, Xinghai internal rumors, and even the latest official website of Xinghai Group also stated that Xinghai Group's handheld laser welding equipment and lasers were all invented and created by Mu Yang. Although I admire Mr. Mu very much, But I also bluntly stated that it is impossible to develop a world-class laser with the ability of the second-year students of General Mu, which is also a big doubt.
The third point, we purchased the handheld laser welding equipment from Xinghai Group, split and decomposed the laser, and then compared it with our laser, and found that there are many similarities, please look at the screen, this list is listed by our igp Similarities come out. "
Mu Yang also looked at the list of similarities that Lu Yiming had listed, but after reading it, he smiled: "This igp's Lu Yiming, President Lu, you must be familiar with lasers, right?"
"Of course, after working in lasers for more than ten years, you must be familiar with the research and development of lasers." Lu Yiming is very sure.
"Then let me ask you, do you know what a Brillouin-Raman distribution is? Do you know what a pure quaternary soliton is? Do you know... Can you answer the questions about these five lasers?" Mu Yang The questions asked are very profound, even if it is an expert, the five questions he said may not be able to answer all of them.
Not to mention, Lu Yiming, who is half a bucket of water level.
At this time, even the translators didn't know how to translate Mu Yang's words.
Lu Yiming asked back: "The question you asked has nothing to do with this case. Do you really understand it at your level?"
Mu Yang solemnly replied: "I'm sorry, I really understand, but I don't want to tell you, and you can't understand it.
Your Majesty asked you to present evidence, not doubts. I also suspect you. The arsonist that happened in the imperial capital some time ago is likely to be you, because you happened to be in the imperial capital.
Although I have no evidence, you are also suspect.
You will definitely not agree with such a statement. If there is no evidence, don't say it.
Therefore, your first and second points of evidence, from a logical point of view, do not hold at all!
As for the third point, the list of technical similarities you listed, is this what you mean by patent infringement?
I am a little disappointed, and a little disappointed in your technical mastery. I have studied the protection scope of your 1000w fiber laser patent, and I have even studied the laser patent protection scope of countries around the world.
And our lasers did not cause any infringement at all. The jury experts can compare the laser protection scope of igp.
I guess you haven't figured out the core technology of lasers yourself. Our lasers are fundamentally different from igp's lasers, so what's the point of infringement. "
At that time, Mu Yang applied for a patent in the name of an individual, just to gain achievement points, not in the name of Xinghai Group.
The igp Imperial Capital branch is looking for invention patents of Xinghai Group, which is definitely not available.
Moreover, not long after Muyang's laser patent release number came out, igp inquired before the lawsuit, UU Kanshu did not find Xinghai Group's laser patent, so Xinghai Group was sued.
Even if he checked again recently, but Muyang has not applied for the publication number of the invention patent, how could he find it.
Multiple factors have caused this layer of misunderstanding.
But Muyang didn't want to tell igp that they had obtained the invention patent publication number. Later, he found out that he could use this lawsuit to attract the media to promote the company and products. Then he would continue to hide the outside world, and he would not take out the invention patent on the official website. The announcement number clarifies the matter of infringement. If igp wants to fight a lawsuit, just fight it. Anyway, it will not be public until the final key of the court trial.
It is impossible to open Wang Zhuang from the beginning. After all, Muyang does not know what evidence igp has prepared and whether it is sufficient.
But from the current point of view, all the evidence of the igp is the same thing, which makes him a little disappointed.
Now, it's time to take out the king fried.
7017k
Other media reporters wanted to interview Mu Yang, but it was almost time for the court session, and Mu Yang refused:
"Everyone, there are still ten minutes before the trial. Please respect the judges and staff who are waiting for work. If you want to interview, when Xinghai Group wins this lawsuit, you will naturally have enough interviews."
The media reporters can also understand and stop asking questions. The scene just now has already made everyone addicted, and there are already topics to write about.
Moreover, Mu Yang was on fire at this time, so he had to be more cautious when asking him questions, otherwise he might run away in embarrassment like the **** female reporter just now.
Mu Yang and others came to the court venue. Since the case was a bit complicated, the judge only arranged for one trial.
They have prepared and backed up the materials used in court in advance, which mainly include identity proof materials and original evidence.
After entering the court, the staff will verify their identities, remind them of relevant precautions, and sit in the corresponding seats as required.
Mu Yang was sitting in the dock, next to him were Luo Xiang and Zheng Li, and the rest of them were sitting in the spectator stand.
The general process of opening a court is like this: verify the identity of the parties → court investigation (statement, evidence, cross-examination) → court debate → final statement → mediation → adjournment.
There are basically very few sentences pronounced in court. Generally, the results are released after a period of time after the court session.
Of course, unless one party admits defeat on the spot, the results can also be released on the spot.
At this time, the plaintiff had already sat down, but Mu Yang and others were slow, mainly because they were delayed by reporters.
In this trial, a total of three judges (one presiding judge, two judges), a clerk and judge's assistant, jurors, technical investigators, etc., the court also invited two experts in the laser industry as jurors , participate in the trial of the case.
This case is relatively serious, so there are three judges, and the presiding judge is sitting between the two judges.
The presiding judge is a judge in his fifties, and the other two judges are also in their forties. They attach great importance to this trial.
Moreover, this is a lawsuit that many media are concerned about, and it must be treated with caution. If it is not handled properly, it will also lead to international disputes.
When the time is up, a judge will probably read out the hearing, and then face the plaintiff:
"The plaintiff reads your complaint below."
The igp attorney picked up a piece of paper and read out directly: "On October 10, 2009, Mu Yang, the chairman of the plaintiff Xinghai Group, purchased five 1000w fiber lasers from igp Shencheng for the first time for the assembly of hand-held laser welding;
On November 10, 2009, the plaintiff Xinghai Group reached cooperation with igp Shencheng Company to purchase 500 sets of 1000w fiber lasers.
On December 20, 2009, the plaintiff Xinghai Group terminated the purchase of igp lasers.
On March 5, 2010, our sales staff found that the hand-held laser welding equipment sold by Xinghai Group, the built-in laser is not the laser of igp, but the laser produced by Xinghai Group.
We believe that Xinghai Group used the industry's reputation of igp's lasers to sell its own handheld laser welding equipment, and then stealthily established its own laser brand, making customers misunderstand that the lasers they bought were igp's lasers.
Moreover, Xinghai Group has not been authorized by igp's 1000w fiber laser technology, and directly imitated igp's laser, which has caused patent infringement.
At the same time, the defendant Xinghai Group, as a competitor in the same industry, not only did not take the initiative to avoid our well-known product structure, but plagiarized it in an all-round way, which caused market confusion, violated good faith, and seriously damaged our interests.
I request the court to judge that Xinghai Group immediately stops the infringement, destroys the infringing products and compensates for the loss of 618 million yuan. "
After listening to the complaint, the on-site observers could not help but take a breath of air. It was 618 million yuan. It was said from the plaintiff's mouth that if Xinghai Group really lost, it would really hurt.
If it was a normal company, it would be directly closed down.
Fortunately, the Xinghai Group is now large.
After the plaintiff finished reading, the judge asked the dock: "Defendant, what is your opinion?"
This question, Mu Yang, as the person who handled it, is the most suitable for him to answer.
Mu Yang smiled and said without hesitation: "I think it's a big opinion, it's true that I purchased lasers from igp, but I haven't signed an agreement about not allowing our company to develop lasers.
My own product, what brand of spare parts are used to assemble my product, this igp can't control it.
You are hegemonic. As long as you have used your products, you are not allowed to use other products. It has violated the "Monopoly Law". I think, Your Honor, this kind of punishment for this kind of company.
As for your claim that our Xinghai Group is imitating igp's lasers, I don't even bother to do such a thing. If there is, please provide evidence. If not, then you are slandering our Xinghai Group and compensate us for the loss of our reputation. I think it was raised before. The 100 million yuan reputation loss fee feels a bit low. "
As soon as he started his statement, Mu Yang counterattacked sharply.
He knew that this was the pre-imposing oppression, which caused the opponent to collapse psychologically or become dizzy, the language expression was incoherent, and eventually he made a mistake.
The igp attorney asked again: "I heard that the xh-w1000 laser on the market was invented by Mr. Mu Yang, then, Mr. Mu Yang, as a sophomore student, how many invention patents have you authorized? How could it be possible to invent the invention? The world's most advanced laser."
Mu Yang replied calmly: "Your logic doesn't hold, even if I don't have an invention patent before, it doesn't mean that I won't invent an advanced laser. Can't my first invention be a laser?
Judges try homicide cases, so he has killed people, so can't he try homicide cases?
I think it's better for you to clarify your thoughts and ask me again, so as not to embarrass yourself. "
Mu Yang's counter-logical inquiry made the three judges laugh, but they stopped quickly.
However, the on-site observers, including media reporters, laughed regardless of their image.
The originally solemn and solemn court turned into a laughing venue.
"quiet!"
The presiding judge patted the case board, "Please continue the trial!"
The attorney was stopped at once, a question that directly suppressed his momentum.
The lawyer representing igp is still unforgiving: "please the defendant directly answer my question, yes or no?"
Mu Yang also ignored his question: "Yes or no, it has nothing to do with me being able to invent lasers. Your logic doesn't hold, do I have to learn to drive a car, do I have to learn a motorcycle first, can't I skip this stage?"
"Defendant, please look directly at this question, yes or no?" The igp attorney continued to ask.
Because the attorney knows that Muyang has not yet authorized the invention patent, which is not enough in terms of time.
If Mu Yang answered truthfully no, then the attorney would have won the first stage and won the momentum.
With this kind of gameplay, sometimes the judges are too late to stop this kind of problem.
However, Mu Yang just smiled lightly and did not answer.
The judge who asked the question just now said: "Wait a minute, the plaintiff's attorney, there is indeed a problem with the logic of your question. Please provide evidence. In what way do you think Xinghai Group has imitated igp's lasers?"
This question is most suitable for Lu Yiming, the technical director of igp, to answer.
Lu Yiming signaled to his attorney and wanted him to calm down, but he lost his momentum at the beginning.
The documents were handed in before the trial, and Lu Yiming opened the documents. The plaintiff and the defendant, as well as the technical officer and jurors, could see the evidence at the same time.
Lu Yiming said: "The first point is that Xinghai Group has been engaged in the laser industry for a very short time. According to my investigation, their R&D team is only 30 people, and the R&D level is insufficient. It is impossible to develop the world's advanced level. Lasers, this is a big doubt.
Second point, as our attorney said, Xinghai internal rumors, and even the latest official website of Xinghai Group also stated that Xinghai Group's handheld laser welding equipment and lasers were all invented and created by Mu Yang. Although I admire Mr. Mu very much, But I also bluntly stated that it is impossible to develop a world-class laser with the ability of the second-year students of General Mu, which is also a big doubt.
The third point, we purchased the handheld laser welding equipment from Xinghai Group, split and decomposed the laser, and then compared it with our laser, and found that there are many similarities, please look at the screen, this list is listed by our igp Similarities come out. "
Mu Yang also looked at the list of similarities that Lu Yiming had listed, but after reading it, he smiled: "This igp's Lu Yiming, President Lu, you must be familiar with lasers, right?"
"Of course, after working in lasers for more than ten years, you must be familiar with the research and development of lasers." Lu Yiming is very sure.
"Then let me ask you, do you know what a Brillouin-Raman distribution is? Do you know what a pure quaternary soliton is? Do you know... Can you answer the questions about these five lasers?" Mu Yang The questions asked are very profound, even if it is an expert, the five questions he said may not be able to answer all of them.
Not to mention, Lu Yiming, who is half a bucket of water level.
At this time, even the translators didn't know how to translate Mu Yang's words.
Lu Yiming asked back: "The question you asked has nothing to do with this case. Do you really understand it at your level?"
Mu Yang solemnly replied: "I'm sorry, I really understand, but I don't want to tell you, and you can't understand it.
Your Majesty asked you to present evidence, not doubts. I also suspect you. The arsonist that happened in the imperial capital some time ago is likely to be you, because you happened to be in the imperial capital.
Although I have no evidence, you are also suspect.
You will definitely not agree with such a statement. If there is no evidence, don't say it.
Therefore, your first and second points of evidence, from a logical point of view, do not hold at all!
As for the third point, the list of technical similarities you listed, is this what you mean by patent infringement?
I am a little disappointed, and a little disappointed in your technical mastery. I have studied the protection scope of your 1000w fiber laser patent, and I have even studied the laser patent protection scope of countries around the world.
And our lasers did not cause any infringement at all. The jury experts can compare the laser protection scope of igp.
I guess you haven't figured out the core technology of lasers yourself. Our lasers are fundamentally different from igp's lasers, so what's the point of infringement. "
At that time, Mu Yang applied for a patent in the name of an individual, just to gain achievement points, not in the name of Xinghai Group.
The igp Imperial Capital branch is looking for invention patents of Xinghai Group, which is definitely not available.
Moreover, not long after Muyang's laser patent release number came out, igp inquired before the lawsuit, UU Kanshu did not find Xinghai Group's laser patent, so Xinghai Group was sued.
Even if he checked again recently, but Muyang has not applied for the publication number of the invention patent, how could he find it.
Multiple factors have caused this layer of misunderstanding.
But Muyang didn't want to tell igp that they had obtained the invention patent publication number. Later, he found out that he could use this lawsuit to attract the media to promote the company and products. Then he would continue to hide the outside world, and he would not take out the invention patent on the official website. The announcement number clarifies the matter of infringement. If igp wants to fight a lawsuit, just fight it. Anyway, it will not be public until the final key of the court trial.
It is impossible to open Wang Zhuang from the beginning. After all, Muyang does not know what evidence igp has prepared and whether it is sufficient.
But from the current point of view, all the evidence of the igp is the same thing, which makes him a little disappointed.
Now, it's time to take out the king fried.
7017k
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